Preventative, Maintenance and Other “Unearned” Spankings (2024)

Are they “fair” in a Female-Led Relationship using spanking for discipline and accountability?

Preventative, Maintenance and Other “Unearned” Spankings (3)

A couple of days ago, my wife asserted that I was owed a spanking for some bad behavior from a week or so ago. I retorted that she had “waived” the issue by not dealing with it closer to the time of the offense. (We have no such “waiver” rule, but it was worth a try.)

My wife, being quick on her feet, retorted: “Well, we have a couple of social events coming up. So, we can just treat it as a preventative spanking.”

“Preventative” spankings are among a variety of rationales or systems that don’t include a 1:1 relationship between a particular offense and a particular punishment. For that reason, I used to think they weren’t really “disciplinary” and might not have a legitimate place in a Female Led Relationship (FLR) that uses spanking for discipline and accountability.

Preventative Spankings

I’ve seen preventative spankings also referred to as “precautionary,” “preemptive,” or “prophylactic.” Regardless of the terminology, the basic idea is they are spankings that are delivered before bad behavior has taken place, in an attempt to head it off in advance.

An example would be, perhaps there have been repeated instances of getting into arguments with Drunk Uncle at family gatherings. In order to prevent it from happening this year, the wife decides to give her husband several swats with the paddle before they leave for the event, leaving him sitting on a warm and tender bottom and causing him to think about whether, in the name of holiday harmony, Drunk Uncle’s political assertions really require a response.

As stated, I used to be a skeptic about whether preventative spankings had a legitimate role in F/m domestic discipline relationships, because they didn’t seem to be about being disciplined or held accountable for something you actually did. That seemed more than a little unfair, since involved punishing for something that hadn’t actually happened and might not.

Gradually, I’ve come around to the concept.

There are at least two answers to the “fairness” question.

First, the wives who use preventative spankings do seem to be dealing with situations in which there has been a well-established track record of misbehavior in the past. It might be drinking too much at a party. It might be something like the Drunk Uncle at the holiday dinner example. It might be making overbearing comments on certain topics in certain social situations, leaving others feeling uncomfortable or intimidated.

Whatever the particulars, in such cases wives may be well-justified in predicting that, since bad behavior happened in that situation in the past, it likely will do so again.

When I’ve discussed this with disciplined husbands who received preventative spankings, they concede that their wives’ predictive power is pretty good. Therefore, while the spanking may be coming a bit early, based on his track record it was likely to be fully earned anyway.

Second, and closely related, the alleged unfairness of preventative spankings seems to be at least somewhat mitigated if they are seen as a precursor to the much worse spanking that will be avoided if the preventative spanking actually works.

So, it’s not strictly true that a preventative is “unearned.” Rather, it has been earned over, and over, and over again. She’s just trying to keep him from earning another, much worse one.

Do preventative spankings work? Although my own wife hasn’t used them often, when she has, they have made a difference.

For example, we were invited to a graduation party with a group of friends who have a track record of boozing to excess, and my own track record was joining in with gusto. I vividly recall sitting there, on a freshly warmed and still stinging butt, very aware of each drink I took and of what came out of my mouth, to an extent that probably would not have been the case without that little pre-party “reminder.” As a result, I kept myself under control despite the excesses going on around me.

As for why they work, it isn’t complicated. As one commenter on a blog I’m associated with explained:

“It’s been remarked how well-behaved most guys are after a spanking. There is a reason for that beyond the mental and psychological effects of being punished, namely the condition of your bottom. How long that lasts probably depends on how severely you were spanked. For me, it seems to be around three days to one week.

“The same thing applies to preventative spankings. It’s much easier for me not to lose my temper, not have that extra glass of wine, or refrain from telling Uncle Carl that he should read a newspaper once in a while, if I have been recently spanked. What stops me is not the abstract thought that she might spank me, but the all too vivid physical memory that she already has.”

Maintenance Spankings

I don’t know whether there is an accepted definition, but I think of maintenance spankings as “reminders” or “just because . . .” spankings that happen on some regular or frequent schedule.

While they don’t necessarily have to happen at pre-set intervals, my impression is that most couples who use them do so on a pre-scheduled basis, like once a week, once a month, on a particular day of the week, etc.

As with preventative spankings, for a long time after discovering FLR-oriented domestic discipline spankings, I was skeptical about maintenance spankings. My primary issue was the same as my concern about preventive spankings, i.e. was it really discipline if it didn’t involve punishing a particular action or failure? Moreover, since they happened at regular intervals, I always wondered whether they were just an excuse for someone with a spanking fetish to get spanked more often.

My wife doesn’t feel the need to do them, though I no longer have my reservations about them. I’m also not as sure as I once was that “preventative” and “maintenance” are distinct categories.

A disciplinary wife commenting on the blog I’m associated with had a husband who had a big problem with behaving arrogantly at home and at work. She described her approach like this:

“We do weekly spankings, whether or not there have been any transgressions, but we don’t call them “maintenance.” We consider them “motivational.” He gets paddled every Monday morning to remind him to keep his arrogance to a minimum. I do believe in domestic discipline that is proactive instead of just reactive. I also like restricting it to one day a week so it is not a dominating thing in our lives.”

She also had an issue with the frequency needed to address deeply rooted, ongoing habits. Her husband’s issue with arrogance was a daily problem — addressing it every time it happened would entail spanking him nearly every day, and she didn’t want it to dominate their lives like that. Thus, her habit of spanking him every Monday. Spanking him once a week was both a kind of “catch up” covering all the instances of arrogance during the week (including arrogance at work, which she wouldn’t necessarily learn about) and also a reminder for him to behave over the following week.

In that sense, maintenance seems to perhaps be kind of a sub-category, or variation, of preventative. It may address accumulated bad behavior that has gone unpunished, while also serving as a reminder to behave in the future.

Here is how her husband summarized his experience with it:

“My wife paddles me every Monday morning, as a reminder to curb my arrogance. She spanks hard enough that sitting is uncomfortable for 2–3 days and I can even feel it as I walk. That discomfort serves as a constant reminder to be humble and keep my mouth shut when I otherwise want to make sarcastic comments. As the discomfort fades, so does my humility. All of my recent incidents of arrogance have come toward the end of the week.”

This couple’s comments blend the concepts of prevention, maintenance, and punishment. The wife’s references to “proactive” and “reactive” were echoed by another disciplinary wife, who liked the term “management” as opposed to “maintenance”:

“If spanking is viewed purely as punishment, preventative spanking doesn’t make sense. But I view it as “behavior management,” rather than just punishment. I have used it in a specific context with my husband in the past. The men in my husband’s extended family have epic political arguments during family dinners. I have always found that annoying, especially when my husband gets involved, which he often does…or rather used to. Therefore, I have, on a couple of occasions, spanked him before going to a family dinner to heighten his consciousness of the behavior I expect of him. I also couple the preventative spanking with the implied threat that, if I have to intervene in an argument during dinner, I just might “forget myself” and remind him at the dinner table of the consequences of misbehavior. I have found that it works. That’s the important thing to me.”

“Role affirmation” and the transition from mere discipline to a Female Led Relationship

While preventative and maintenance spankings obviously overlap a lot when it comes to managing behavior, there is another sense in which maintenance has a role that is totally distinct from preventative spankings, namely “role affirmation.”

Power exchange relationships like domestic discipline and FLRs usually don’t become robust overnight. Making them real may require undoing a lot of deeply-entrenched hierarchies.

If a woman was raised in a patriarchal environment, or if her marriage was once itself an example of such an environment, she may need to periodically remind herself that she now has a new level of authority.

In that sense, preventative and maintenance spankings may be tools for transitioning the relationship from a fairly limited kind of dominance, focused primarily on discrete instances of disciplinary accountability, to a deeper, more pervasive power transition. It’s the transition from simple domestic discipline to a real Female Led Relationship, in which she takes on a more proactive role in managing conduct instead of just punishing it and, indeed, managing more of the marriage as a whole.

One of the disciplinary wives quoted above summed up all these various roles for maintenance and preventative spankings nicely in this single quote:

“I’m not sure if there has been a Monday morning when there was NOTHING to punish him for. So, we start with that. Then we move on to the upcoming week, though there really is no noticeable transition. On many Mondays nowadays there are more swats about the upcoming week than there were for the past week. To me, that is a sign that the discipline is working because he had a good week last week. But he admits that he needs a paddling to remind him to keep it up. If he completely stopped being arrogant, maybe the reminders would stop. But that’s all speculative, since his arrogance is unlikely to go away completely. I think the routine we have established of paddling him every Monday has been good for him. He knows what to expect. And it is good for me too, to remind myself of the authority I now hold in our marriage. I don’t have to and won’t accept his arrogance anymore. Maybe we both need weekly reminders of that!”

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Preventative, Maintenance and Other “Unearned” Spankings (2024)

FAQs

Is spanking considered abuse? ›

Spanking is defined as using an open hand to strike a child's buttocks. Some states only allow spanking while others state that “reasonable” or “moderate” methods may be used. If the discipline results in significant injury to the child, then it may be considered abuse.

Is spanking children an acceptable form of discipline? ›

Today, more research is showing that spanking is ineffective and harmful. Spanking is seen more often as a form of violence against children. Spanking is a type of corporal punishment that can do more harm than good. Spanking is on a list of physical punishments that include hitting or causing pain to your child.

What happens when you are spanked? ›

There are also many adverse physical, mental, and emotional effects correlated with spanking and other forms of corporal punishment, including various physical injuries, increased anxiety, depression, and antisocial behavior.

Should a 12 year old be spanked? ›

But as a general guideline, I would suggest that most corporal punishment be finished prior to the first grade (six years old). It should taper off from there and stop when the child is between the ages of ten and twelve.

Is it okay for parents to physically discipline their child? ›

Spanking can physically harm children. Rather than teaching kids how to change their behavior, spanking makes them fearful of their parents and teaches them to avoid getting caught. For kids seeking attention by acting out, spanking may "reward" them — negative attention is better than no attention at all.

What percentage of parents have spanked their kids? ›

The survey suggests that a majority of children in the US were not being spanked in the past year. The rate of spanking was 49% in the past year for children ages 0–9, 23% for youth 10–17 and 37% overall. The only group for whom spanking seemed to occur to more than half were the children ages 2–7.

Is being spanked as a child traumatic? ›

Hitting children, even for “discipline,” is a form of trauma. Some adults cling to the excuse that a single swat on the bottom, or one slap on the head, can't be that bad, and is necessary to “teach them a lesson.”

What does the Bible say about spanking children? ›

One of the strongest statements about discipline is in Proverbs 23:13-14, which states, “Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod you will save his soul from Sheol.”

Are spanked children more aggressive? ›

“With spanking, you are showing kids that it is OK to hit people if you would like them to stop what they are doing. Kids learn that this is an appropriate behavior, and it prompts them to become more aggressive,” Ma said.

What happens in the brain when a child is spanked? ›

They found that children who had been spanked had a higher activity response in the areas of their brain that regulate these emotional responses and detect threats — even to facial expressions that most would consider non-threatening.

Is it a sin to whoop your child? ›

Does the Bible Say Spanking Is OK or Is it Sinful? Spanking is a sin when done out of anger. The Bible says to not sin in your anger, in other words, reacting out of your sin nature is against God's perfect will for loving relationships. A child does not feel safe when parents don't control their emotions.

What does hitting your child do to them mentally? ›

Harsh physical punishment (smacking, shoving and pushing) has been linked to anxiety, depression, substance abuse and antisocial behaviours in adulthood in a similar way to child abuse.

Is being spanked with a belt abuse? ›

Some courts have found that a parent's use of a belt was abuse while others have reached different conclusions. Truly, every case is different. Courts sometimes find abuse in seemingly moderate cases due to the family's history.

How hard are you allowed to hit your child? ›

The Court defined "reasonable" as force that would have a "transitory and trifling" impact on the child. For example, spanking or slapping a child so hard that it leaves a mark that lasts for several hours would not be considered "transitory and trifling".

Why did I decide to stop smacking my children? ›

“Acting out” as a teenager can mean drinking or general risky behaviour. Your children are also learning from you all the time. If you shout and are violent, they will be too. When you shout or smack, you are not teaching your children any sort of lesson, you are just showing them what adults do.

What is it called when a parent spanks their child? ›

The term "corporal punishment" is often used interchangeably with "physical punishment" or "physical discipline". In the context of causing pain in order to punish, it is distinct from physically restraining a child to protect the child or another person from harm.

Is getting spanked a negative punishment? ›

Positive punishment involves adding an aversive stimulus after an unwanted behavior to discourage a person from repeating the behavior. Spanking and chores are examples of this. On the other hand, negative punishment involves the removal of something desirable.

Can you whoop your child? ›

In both criminal and civil cases involving child abuse, it has been recognized by the courts that the legislature houses parents' rights to discipline their children so long as those methods are not excessive, and they are reasonable. So, spanking is legal, but not if it results in harm to the child.

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